The Manhattan Declaration
Manhattan Declaration updates and thoughts... #Mdec #Protestant #Jesus
"The world is a dangerous place... because [many] look on and do nothing." ~ Einstein
I got an email today. Theres updated info on the Mdec website www.manhattandeclaration.org, which I read. While it shows the declaration is not just for Christians, I now have reservations (since more has been added to the site info). I signed it originally, because I saw it's what Christians, conseratives and those who value what America's founders desired for life in our society, would agree is right - and is very necessary to stand up and speak about this in today's deteriorating society. Yes, I had reservations when Colson was involved with it (a super red flag to any Christian), but when several respected and main leaders of the Protestant faith signed it, (not the wishy washy ones, the real biblical ones)... I decided to read what the site home page said about the declaration, and I agreed with the three points. [The home page, by the way, is what I thought the mdec was (until further investigation today)]. If you thought that too my Protestant friend, you need to look at it all the information on the site and the declaration.
Today... I found the information on there pretty disturbing. First, I am livid that the faq page has many catholic quotes and no Christian ones (apart from mentioning MLKJ), and that the Mdec people seem to embrace LDS as if they were Christian. And seemed to imply or avoid the reason we are against homosexuality.... they didnt denounce (or disassociate with) those who choose to live in that wicked lifestyle (and yet have the audacity to call themselves Christian). Secondly, I'm very upset the faq page laces the answers in such a way that it seem to present catholicism as more exellent, above the other faiths listed, including "true Christianity", which is absolutely unbiblical. According to clear Scripture teaching... Orthodox, Catholic, Mormons, JW's and those outside the Protestant Church, (and those practicing wicked lifestyles)...are not Christians; They have not been converted by God and are decieved, no matter how sincere they are about their faith. They are in a false religion and need to know the truth.
"The world is a dangerous place... because [many] look on and do nothing." ~ Einstein
I got an email today. Theres updated info on the Mdec website www.manhattandeclaration.org, which I read. While it shows the declaration is not just for Christians, I now have reservations (since more has been added to the site info). I signed it originally, because I saw it's what Christians, conseratives and those who value what America's founders desired for life in our society, would agree is right - and is very necessary to stand up and speak about this in today's deteriorating society. Yes, I had reservations when Colson was involved with it (a super red flag to any Christian), but when several respected and main leaders of the Protestant faith signed it, (not the wishy washy ones, the real biblical ones)... I decided to read what the site home page said about the declaration, and I agreed with the three points. [The home page, by the way, is what I thought the mdec was (until further investigation today)]. If you thought that too my Protestant friend, you need to look at it all the information on the site and the declaration.
Today... I found the information on there pretty disturbing. First, I am livid that the faq page has many catholic quotes and no Christian ones (apart from mentioning MLKJ), and that the Mdec people seem to embrace LDS as if they were Christian. And seemed to imply or avoid the reason we are against homosexuality.... they didnt denounce (or disassociate with) those who choose to live in that wicked lifestyle (and yet have the audacity to call themselves Christian). Secondly, I'm very upset the faq page laces the answers in such a way that it seem to present catholicism as more exellent, above the other faiths listed, including "true Christianity", which is absolutely unbiblical. According to clear Scripture teaching... Orthodox, Catholic, Mormons, JW's and those outside the Protestant Church, (and those practicing wicked lifestyles)...are not Christians; They have not been converted by God and are decieved, no matter how sincere they are about their faith. They are in a false religion and need to know the truth.
They need to understand that if they are not right with God, (according to the Scriptures), upon death they will be judged and spend eternity in Hell. These faith groups preach another gospel and are works based religions (just like all the non-Christian world religions) and we can not stand together with them if they claim that we are just different sects under Christianity. *The truth of what I am saying screams Anathama! at these and other religions. Scripture says not to partake with and to stay away from those who claim to be Chrisitans and are not, it also says we are not to be yoked together with those who are not saved.
If those who worked on the Mdec know anything, they know Protestants hold to Scriptures teachings even when it is hard it is to accept what it teaches. The view the other faiths listed on the mdec as apostate heretics. We are not to be unequally yoked with them and we can stand up for what is right, apart from them (ie. as Protestants united). Afterall, protesting heresy and false religion is what lead many in catholicism to leave that religion (shortly before and) after the Reformation to join with the other Bible believing and biblical gospel teaching Christians in the world, (whom are now all just basically called Protestant, or Evangelical). I must also say, loud and clear: Charles Colson is not the leader or spokesperson for Christians (ie. Protestants), nor would we give him that position.
Thirdly, Because of the new information on the site - the way the Mdec movement has chosen to word, phase, and center its information around catholicism and blending faiths together as if they are one faith, instead of just generalizing it, I hereby REMOVE my name from the document signatories, (since there is no way to remove my name from the list that I know of, I am declaring it "here"). I understand John MacArthurs response to the MDec http://ow.ly/FE9f and Walter Price's response to that (which was good and brought balance) http://bit.ly/FyH98, and sided with Walter, BUT since the information on the Mdec site has been updated, I can't stand with the creators and signers of the declaration anymore, because of what it is implying, and also because of their views on "who" is Christian and what they (wrongly) believe about what the "lifestyle" of a Christian looks like.
So, as I always have in the past, I will continue to stand up "soley" with Protestants in America on these issues, because our good intentions do not take precedence over obeying the Word of the Lord (1 Sam 15:21-23). The Redeemed always have stood for and will continue to stand for 1.the sanctity of human life, 2.the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of only a man and woman, 3.the rights of conscience and religious liberty, even if it becomes illegal or we are persecuted for these views. Protestants will always stand up for these things because we belong to Christ Jesus. At the same time we will continue to speak out against the mingling of false faiths deceptivly tricking people who are not aware, duping them to think or teach it is ok to lump everyone as "Christian" whos faith holds some belief in the Christian Bible". That, my friend is a lie straight from Satan, the father of lies and deception. Don't let him fool you. Ask God for discernment and seek The truth.
In closing, I as a Christian I will always stand up for and speak out on these issues to ensure people are educated in the truth, and the facts, both from a Biblical worldview and one who values what the Founders created and intended for America.
I believe all in America should stand together as a country, in goodwill for the defense of the foundational principles of justice and the common good. To advance the sanctity of life, rebuild and revitalize the marriage culture, and protect religious liberty. We need to protect religious freedom and speech the constitution of America, defend the weak and vulnerable and work tirelessly to protect and strengthen vital institutions of civil society, beginning with the family. And this is something RC Sproul says in his comments too.
If you are in one of those other religions I want to stress to you that I am saying in this message is true and it is vitally neccessary you understand the implications of it, so
If your question for me is "What is the Biblical Gospel?", or if you want to know "What's the difference between your religion and Christianity (ie. Protestants)?" . If you have other questions that dont fall under the catagory listed above, feel free to look at the Welcome & page FAQ area.
If those who worked on the Mdec know anything, they know Protestants hold to Scriptures teachings even when it is hard it is to accept what it teaches. The view the other faiths listed on the mdec as apostate heretics. We are not to be unequally yoked with them and we can stand up for what is right, apart from them (ie. as Protestants united). Afterall, protesting heresy and false religion is what lead many in catholicism to leave that religion (shortly before and) after the Reformation to join with the other Bible believing and biblical gospel teaching Christians in the world, (whom are now all just basically called Protestant, or Evangelical). I must also say, loud and clear: Charles Colson is not the leader or spokesperson for Christians (ie. Protestants), nor would we give him that position.
Thirdly, Because of the new information on the site - the way the Mdec movement has chosen to word, phase, and center its information around catholicism and blending faiths together as if they are one faith, instead of just generalizing it, I hereby REMOVE my name from the document signatories, (since there is no way to remove my name from the list that I know of, I am declaring it "here"). I understand John MacArthurs response to the MDec http://ow.ly/FE9f and Walter Price's response to that (which was good and brought balance) http://bit.ly/FyH98, and sided with Walter, BUT since the information on the Mdec site has been updated, I can't stand with the creators and signers of the declaration anymore, because of what it is implying, and also because of their views on "who" is Christian and what they (wrongly) believe about what the "lifestyle" of a Christian looks like.
So, as I always have in the past, I will continue to stand up "soley" with Protestants in America on these issues, because our good intentions do not take precedence over obeying the Word of the Lord (1 Sam 15:21-23). The Redeemed always have stood for and will continue to stand for 1.the sanctity of human life, 2.the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of only a man and woman, 3.the rights of conscience and religious liberty, even if it becomes illegal or we are persecuted for these views. Protestants will always stand up for these things because we belong to Christ Jesus. At the same time we will continue to speak out against the mingling of false faiths deceptivly tricking people who are not aware, duping them to think or teach it is ok to lump everyone as "Christian" whos faith holds some belief in the Christian Bible". That, my friend is a lie straight from Satan, the father of lies and deception. Don't let him fool you. Ask God for discernment and seek The truth.
In closing, I as a Christian I will always stand up for and speak out on these issues to ensure people are educated in the truth, and the facts, both from a Biblical worldview and one who values what the Founders created and intended for America.
I believe all in America should stand together as a country, in goodwill for the defense of the foundational principles of justice and the common good. To advance the sanctity of life, rebuild and revitalize the marriage culture, and protect religious liberty. We need to protect religious freedom and speech the constitution of America, defend the weak and vulnerable and work tirelessly to protect and strengthen vital institutions of civil society, beginning with the family. And this is something RC Sproul says in his comments too.
If you are in one of those other religions I want to stress to you that I am saying in this message is true and it is vitally neccessary you understand the implications of it, so
If your question for me is "What is the Biblical Gospel?", or if you want to know "What's the difference between your religion and Christianity (ie. Protestants)?" . If you have other questions that dont fall under the catagory listed above, feel free to look at the Welcome & page FAQ area.
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