Did Jesus pray to himself to be saved and raise himself? confused, help.
Q: saw a short video (Christian/Muslim debate) today, & am not on either side, but would like clarity from Christians on this.
So Jesus is God... but he prayed to himself to be saved from death....and raised himself from the dead.... but the idea makes zero sense to me... help ???
A: This helps clarify:
God is three Persons but of one Nature.
God's attributes are identical to His essence(1)
Jesus the Word, sent by the Father to earth, who then [by Jesus] sent the Holy Spirit to believers [to indwell them](2). 3. So the Son (begotten by the the Father who sent him from Heaven to put flesh on & called Jesus, as therefore the Son) can talk/pray to the other members of the triune Godhead. As 100% God but also now 100% man too, he is able to talk to God and pray to Him. See God was fine within the trinity to enjoy each other's presence prior to creating man. God is eternal and was never created. He always existed. So they can fellowship among each other and didn't need mankind. YHWH just chose to create humans, knew the beginning to end and plans for the redeemed ones in eternity future.
Also the prayer wasnt actually about death, but the cup of wrath he would take and endure to pay for the crimes (of all those who believe) while on the cross. Yet he said he would do God's will. He would follow the plan to rederm those whom the Father had promised to give him.
Theres a whole picture to look at. The role each in the Godhead is fulfilling in regards to mans redemption. But who the Godhead is doesn't change, YHWH who was before creation is still the triune Godhead. Theres 2 things to look at. And the overall picture.
And as others noted, the Creator can easily put on human flesh, as he designed and created man. Can he not create a flesh tent to dwell in himself? He had the trmple on earth created in the wilderness and another in Israel to dwell in. Likewise he can also dwell in humsn flesh as the GodMan but also thr Holy Spirit can dwell in man after salvation. To try in mans understanding to limit God is crazy.
Plus since Jesus is God in the flesh, he can return to the body he made to dwell in. Jesus lived a perfect life in his humanity nature [obviously as God he cant sin either]. He is called the 2nd Adam because he is not born of a man, but God, and thus another reason called the Son of God. But because he has human flesh and loved as himself also he likewise can be called the Son of Man too.
So since the sin in Eden caused death to exist and that Law of sin and death requires a human death to die. Only a perfect one could accomplish the goal on fallen mans behalf. Its why the OT sacrifices from Eden onwards showed that shadow type, awaiting the true Messiah who would take away thr sins of the world. Only the perfect one could, as all men are sinners. So the perfect Lamb came, and completed that mission. Since a innocent person cannot be held by death, God the Word, the Son called Jesus in the flesh, can put his own Spirit back in s dead body and rise again. Thus victorious over sin and death and the grave. Its how believers are pictured. We died to self, by dying in Christ, and rose to new life [being "born again" by God] being likewise raised in Christ, when we obey the Gospel of Christ.
So by Jesus work we are saved, forgiven and made right with God, all at the same time.
Obey the Gospel today.
And then let God who gives spiritual life snd spiritual eyes, to fallen man, reveal these things as you read the whole Bible; God's Word, to connect the dots, and be marveled at our glorious and amazing God.
When you read it, focus on God and the revelations of these truths seen in the shadow types and illustrations, until the mystery is fully revealed through Jesus at the Ressurrection. You'll also see God's attributes and nature as he works all things out in the life of mankind as you read the 66 books of the Bible. The Bible, this special revelation from God to mankind is meant to show us who God is, who we are, that we need a Savior as fallen sinful people, and the promises for those who are born again, as well as how to fight sin by the power of God in us, and how to live life here, until he takes us into glory [eternity with God/Heaven], and blesses us there as we fellowship with and enjoy Him forever.
I pray you turn to Jesus today. He is man's only hope and Savior. Tomorrow isnt guaranteed, so settle this matter... right now.
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About God & His attributes; character & nature
Footnotes:
(1) Look at the trinity resource above to understand who each member of the Godhead are, and dive into more about the Holy Trinity.
(2) Like the above will explain, see also the Trinity Unity video message there.
The teaching or doctrine of the Trinity makes clear sense, (as does their roles in mans salvation), once you understand what God revealed (in the Holy Bible) about himself.
(3) backup link to Gospel presentation
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